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  1. kiakam wrote ∼Thursday, Jun 12

    Hmmm....tough choice! there is no difference...politically correct we are Iranians, but it's a matter of history and personal choice...in Farsi we say we are Irani, not Fars...

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  2. Mte321 wrote ∼Thursday, Jun 12

    I love it when people say, 'I'm from Persia.'  I'm curious why they don't just say I'm from Iran or I'm Iranian.  Personally I only call things Persian (i.e., rugs, cats, rice etc.). 

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  3. samanism wrote ∼Thursday, Jun 12

    EYE-RAINIAN

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  4. khalesusske wrote ∼Sunday, Jun 15

    Nazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzi,Surprised What is the difference?

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  5. catch22 wrote ∼Tuesday, Jun 17

    Someone asked what the difference was. This is the difference:Do Italians call themselves Romans?Do the English call themselves AngloSaxons?Do Swedish people refer to themselves as Vikings? etc. etc. 
    Persia, great as it was, is in the past. We need to wake up to reality. I am Iranian, I am not a cat or a rug to be 'Persian'. We need to see what legacy we can leave our future generations to make them progress and be proud of. Looking over our shoulders will not achieve this. Wake up people: we are Iranians and Cyrus The Great is not our king anymore. We have Ahmadinejad, so what do we about it? Lets move forwards and find a way out of this present mess. 

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    1. kiakam wrote ∼Tuesday, Jun 17

      well said, catch22.

  6. Sussu wrote ∼Wednesday, Jun 18

    We certainly don't behave as persians did once upon a time! As soon as we go back in time, I be sure to tell everyone I'm persian. till then, wake up and smell the change, I say!

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  7. Pejman7 wrote ∼Monday, Jun 23

    I always use PERSIAN.
    Changing the name of the country from PERSIA to IRAN in Western languages was a big mistake by Reza Shah. We should keep it alive. IRAN is fine but in Persian language.

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  8. honeybee wrote ∼Tuesday, Jun 24

    Iran means land of the Arians ... the name was changed from ersian to Iran in order to distinguish us as a non-arab country in the mid-east ... Persian or Iranian, it's interchangable. I think a lot of people say Persian because of all the bad connotations that surrounds the words Iran/Iranian ... Living in the south it's sometimes easier to pronounce Persian vs. Iranian ... they want to correct me all the time by saying, "well, you said 'E-ron' isn't it 'I-ran'?" You find yourself constantly explaining that it's not  "Eye-ranian", however, I did tell a person I was Persian one day and they asked, "Oh, well what language do you speak in Peru?" . LOL so I guess I should start telling people that I'm from the moon (as my mom tells people)

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  9. honeybee wrote ∼Tuesday, Jun 24

    Sorry ... there was a typo earlier-->the name was changed from ersian to Iran in order to distinguish us as a non-arab country in the mid-east ... should have been -->> Iran means land of the Arians ... the name was changed from PERSIA to IRAN in order to distinguish us as a non-arab country in the mid-east

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  10. promteh wrote ∼Saturday, Jun 28

    There is a big difference between "Iranian" and "Persian".

    Iran is made up a variety of Ethnic groups: Turks, Kurds, Gilani, Loor, Persians, Balooch and others.

    In other words, Persians (or Fars) are only one of the few elasticities in Iran.  Saying I'm Persian, in a way, is like saying I am Turk - you're only identifying your ethnic group.

    The beauty of Iran is that it has been able to maintain diversity of ethnic groups in a federated manner, though there have been times that one or another ethnic group dominated the power.

    Saying "I am Iranian" is identifying with that rich and historical diversity and co-existence.

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  11. AK4444 wrote ∼Monday, Jun 30

    Either one.  Let's be proud of the country that we're from, even though it currently has a bad govt.  Lets be UNITED and work together to make changes PEACEFULLY.  We are the most successful and well educated minority group in the US.  Lets strengthen our Iranian/persian communities in the US by working together, networking and helping each other, similar to what so many other minority groups in the US (Chinese, Hispanic, etc) have done.  I hope that one day we can all freely and happily go back and forth to/from Iran/US, and tell happy, good, funny and positive stories about every trip, about our families in either country, about our jobs, our accomplishments, etc.  I still have HOPE!

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  12. starzshowz wrote ∼Monday, Jun 30

    OF COURSE PersianCool

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  13. Ali_G wrote ∼Monday, Jul 14

    I born in IRAN so I should be called Iranian ...

    Persia was called to great emperor of Persians very long ago but Europian called Iran in mistake Persia,

    In the time of Reza Shah Kabir (The Great King Reza) Father of Ex-King of Iran Mohammad Reza Shah,
    He ruled to name this country Iran and the people Iranian ...

    Also I saw in many times that also they called our language Persian not Farsi ...
    Sometimes we also do this mistake ...

    So we are Iranain and our language is Farsi ...

    God Keep our Iran and bless all Iranain ...

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  14. Baade_Sabaa wrote ∼Thursday, Jul 24

    The words Persia and Persian entered Western languages via Greek and referred exclusively to all of what we know as Iran throughout history, even though it was called Aryānām in Zoroaster's Avesta dated long before the Achaemenid dynasty and Cyrus the Great. (See Wikipedia.org at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_%28Persia%29#Etymology)

     

    Using Persian vs. Iranian has political connotations with far reaching consequences. Hence, an informed decision in this regard is of paramount importance to our sociopolitical interests!

     

    Even though both sides of the argument have valid points, the context within which we choose one vs. the other has to be the deciding factor. If we are speaking Persian then we should call the country Iran, ourselves Iraani and the language Parsi as it has been the case throughout our history. By the way, Farsi is the arabized version of Parsi and is wrong to use unless you are speaking Arabic! The Arabs changed it since they don't have the sound "P" in Arabic. However, if we are speaking English or any other language in which the words Persia and Persian had been used prior to 1935, we should continue to do so for the following reasons.

     

    First, in English many countries are called by names other than what they are called in their own language. For Example, in German the country is called Deutshland and the language Deutsch instead of German which are very different from the words to which they pertain in English. When we speak English we too use German and Germany. We don't make a fuss about it and neither do the Germans! Why are we Trying to change other peoples language when we expect them to get their nose out of our business?! They, however comply because they have ulterior motives which I'll explain later.

     

    Second, granted Reza Shah asked the world to start calling our country Iran in his Norooz speech of 1935, but that was a grave mistake the consequences of which he did not fathom as he was not versed in politics in general and specially the politics of language! To demonstrate note the use of the words "spy" which has a negative connotation vs "intelligence officer which has a positive one in a quote from BBC News during the cold war. "Two American Intelligence officers were exchanged for two Soviet spies!" Therefore, implying that the soviets were the bad guys and the Americans the good ones! While for fairness sake Reza Shah deserves credit for his patriotism and some of his services to Iran and Iranians, he does deserve criticism in his choice in this matter as well as destroying the "Mashrooteh Revolution" which was achieved at great cost to our people and could have resulted in a free Iran. This is what you get when you have a dictator despite all his best intentions, specially one who can hardly read or write specially in a world in which he has to compete against the likes of Roosevelt and Churchill!!

     

    Third, and this is the most important one! The western countries by virtue of their rhetoric have to build consensus to admonish another nation or to go to war with her. It is much easier to do so if the country has little or no credibility in the normal western people's eyes. Remember how easily the American troops invaded Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan, but took a long time to do the same with in Bosnia to stop the greatest genocide since WWI, because these were white Europeans whereas the others were in the words of George Carlin the "Brown People" to whom Americans felt no connection. The West did not fully comprehend the strategic importance of the Middle East particularly Iran until WWII when Iran and its railroad were the determining factor in helping the Russians who were under siege and about to fall to the Germans. That's why they called Iran "the bridge of victory," and that's why immediately after the victory in Moscow they exiled our sovereign king to Morris Island till his death and installed his son and a puppet who would police the region on their behalf.

     

    You have to look at it from a Westerner's point of view who has always heard of Persia as a great nation and a super power of the old world which rivaled Rome and has contributed greatly to the civilization from which we enjoy today. Dissociating today's Iran from its ancient name in the wast is the same as the Kennedy family changing their name to Smith! Do you think they would get away with much of they do if their last name was not Kennedy? I am yet to see an English text dated before WWII in which Iran was referred to as anything but Persia in spite of the fact that Reza Shah had asked for this name change over 10 years prior! They needed an excuse to strip us of our heritage in the Western people's eyes and we gave them just that. Here's another outrageous example of demonizing our country by the American media to justify an Israeli attack on Iran.   “Morris sees...Palestinians -- and to a degree, all Arabs; and Iranians, too -- as a species of animals not yet inducted into full humanity... ‘Something like a cage has to be built for them. I know that sounds terrible. It is really cruel. But there is no choice. There is a wild animal there that has to be locked up in one way or another’.”

    —David Bromwich, The Huffington Post, July 21, 2008

    These are the comments of Benny Morris a so called scholar and Israeli historian. He'd be damned if he made a comment like that about the Serbs, or another well regarded people.

    You can read the full article at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bromwich/benny-morris-justifies-is_b_113725.html

     

    We must if for no other reason, for this very one resist the change of identity requested by a not so well informed king and imposed by very calculating Western politicians. We need to make sure all our American friends make the connection between the old Persia and today's Iran if we want to protect our homeland from foreign invasion. Even those of us who are against the current regime in Iran need to realize that overthrowing them by a foreign hand is selling our country to the invaders and it will be the innocent people, your family and mine who will pay the price. Take a close look at who is shouldering the brunt of the impact of bringing down Saddam Hossein.

     

    Therefore, my dear compatriots, I am going to call myself Persian when I speak English and Iraani when speaking Parsi. I'm sure you're smart enough to do what's best for you and your country!

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  15. extremeemperor1 wrote ∼Sunday, Aug 31

    IRAN HAS ALLWAYS BEEN CALLED IRAN SINCE 8000 YEARS AGO FROM THE THE TIME OF THE GREAT "PISHDADIAN DYNESTY" AND THE "KIANIAN DYNESTY".
    IRAN MEANS "THE LAND OF THE TRUE ARYANS". ARYANS WHO HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH FAKE BRITISH HISTORIAN PROFILING IT AS A NORDIC RACE! LOL.
    MEDES, PERSIANS, PARTHIANS, DAILAMIANS, KURDS, GILANIANS, CASPIANS, KASHANIANS, TAJIKS, ARMENIANS, GAFGHAZIANS (TRUE NONE NORDIC CACASIANS),.............................,AND SO ON ARE THE TRUE ARYANS WHOS LAND HAS BEEN IRAN.

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  16. pani1351 wrote ∼27 days ago

    I think persian is better.

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