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Polls, Thoughts and Opinions

Posted by maat9 on Monday, December 03, 10:34 PM

A co-worker of mine found a poll and sent the link to all the people in our book club who normally participate in our discussions. 

 

The poll is located at:

 

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16281886

 

What are your thoughts?  What do you think of the poll in general?  How accurate do you feel the results are?



Part I - a  response from Kobe2125

 

Sorry for the lateness of my response. But two things had to happen before I could respond; 1) I had to come down so I could speak intelligently on the subject and not out of anger. 2) Had some work to do. It should be known that I am a lover and fan of hip-hop, notice I said hip-hop and not rap, there is a difference.

 

How can hip-hop music or even rap music be blamed for the problems of

America? When I read articles like this or see debates about this or even watch a Congressional hearing about this. It makes me mad to no end. Not because there is an attack on the music I love. But for the simple fact that in the 21st century and the United States of America, that people actually believe that lyrics to a song are the main cause of problems in our society. Some times I think to my self that this has to be a joke. If you don't like rap music that is fine, that is your God given and constitutional right not to like and I don't have a problem with that.

 

What I do have a problem with, is when rap music is singled out to be the bad guy. Everything you that is talked about in rap lyrics I can find the same topics in highly rated popular TV and movies, but what I can't do is find the same outrage.

 

Violence: The Soprano's, a TV show about life in the mafia. Not about how it's a bad thing.

 

Sex: Where do I start? Desperate Housewives, a show about woman who cheat on there husbands.

 

Not obeying the law: The Shield, A show where the hero is a crooked cop. And just for you info, in the very fist episode he shoots a Cop in the face cause he was going to rat him out.

 

The list goes on and on I can name a number of movies and TV personalities like the guy who runs the brothel in Vegas.  He has his own TV show and Hue Hefner and his "3" girlfriends have their own show. But I don't see them on Capital hill explaining themselves to Congress.

 

What moral values do these shows and those like it have? Why do they get a pass and hip-hop doesn't?

 

I have a theory for that but I’m not going to get into it. I'll cut this short and get off my soap box for now, but I do have a lot to say on this. But here is a question for you, if the content in rap music is so bad, why do so many people listen to it? Why does talking about pimps, thugs and violence sell in America? Instead of cleaning up rap music, why can't we clean up the communities these rappers are talking about?

 

And just for your info. Google "The Wille Lynch Theory" makes for very interesting reading.

Comments (3)

kenna905

kenna905 wrote on Dec 05, 07:59 PM

I agree. We need to clean up the communities that are talked about in songs.  Hip hop lyrics mirror the things that are happening in the community. 

DaveK

DaveK wrote on Dec 06, 09:32 AM

Rap/Hip Hop is not the problem the problem has existed for alot longer than they have really been around. But I do think that i does try and glorify the situation and that too many kids look up to the rappers as hero's/role models. So in that sense while it is not the cause of the problem it definatly is not helping it either.

Kobe2125

Kobe2125 wrote on Dec 09, 10:46 PM

Ok lets get one thing straight. the glorification of sex and violence in America sells. Every genre in the Entertainment knows this. My problem is know other genre of entertainment gets the same flak as hip-hop. So why is it that movies, tv, and others styles of music get a past. So you say rappers are hero's and role models, so Paris Hilton and Britney Spears are not looked up to by kids. If you compare the fan base of all of hip-hop to the fan base/cult like following to these stars and it is not even close. And I ask you what positve impact have they had on society. They are not helping the problem either but i didn't see them in front of Congress. I'll stop myself right here but the bottom line is if the entire entertainment industry was under fire, I would be ok with it. But since only a small part of it is being targeted I have a huge problem with that.

P.S Part II coming soon

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A forum to openly discuss a wealth of books, ideas and people as they affect us, our community and our world.

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September 22, 2007 by maat9
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